Muslims do not claim that Jesus’ true disciples tampered with the Bible, but that others claiming to act in their names did so later on. This is attested to by the fact that the Trinitarian church felt it necessary to totally obliterate all Gospel manuscripts written before 325 AD when they officially introduced the “Trinity” to the world. This is why we find such serious contradictions in even the most basic of it’s teachings. For example, we are told that Saul of Tarsus (Paul) is the author of the majority of the books of the New Testament. He is claimed to be the author of Romans, 1 and 2 Corinthians, Galatians, Ephesians, Phillippians, Colossians, 1 and 2 Thessalonians, 1 and 2 Timothy, Titus, Philemon, and Hebrews. We would expect such a pivotal character in the Bible and the author of the majority of the New Testament books to be able to keep his stories straight at least in such fundamental matters as how he became a Christian and was “saved.”
However, we can find in the Bible a sworn affidavit by Paul that he is guilty of fabrication. Sound incredible? Let us have a look.
If we read Acts 9:19-29 and Acts 26:19-21, we will find that Paul was busy persecuting the followers of Jesus in Jerusalem and dragging them from their homes to be tortured, killed or converted, when suddenly one day he decided to branch out and persecute them in Damascus. For this reason, he goes to the High Priest asking for letters sanctioning such actions in Damascus. Why he would do this since the High Priest of Jerusalem had no authority over Damascus remains a mystery to many, however, let us continue.
Shortly after setting out to continue his evil work in Damascus, Paul is supposed to have “seen the Lord in the way” and accepted Christianity after being a staunch enemy of Christians and having become famous for his severe persecution of them. Barnabas (one of the apostles of Jesus) then supposedly vouched for him with the other apostles and convinced them to accept him. Paul then went with all of the apostles on a preaching campaign in and out of Jerusalem and all of Judea preaching boldly to it’s people. Paul then appointed himself the twelfth apostle of Jesus (in place of Judas who had the devil in him) as seen in his own books (Romans 1:1, 1 Corinthians 1:1 ..etc.)
Dear bro Menj,
Assalamualaikum.
The book Hebrews wasn’t wrote by Paul. So pls remove it before you being embarrased further. InshaAllah, may He guide you in analysing your facts and details.
Like your thoughts but then some of your comments not making sense. If muslim dakwah (incl me and you) want to declare truth about Islam to all people outside of Islamic faith, let us do it without giving our own assumption our wishful thinking. You need to do further studies… who knows you might have left some other details. InshaAllah He will guide you through.
Like it or not please don’t associate ppl with the Devil. I don’t agree when ppl associate someone with the Devil like America call as the Great Satan. I am a American Muslim lady who is following up your work and development of your country, Malaysia.
[Christians attribute the author of Hebrews to Paul. Read here for further details. The statement will remain.]
In the name of Allah, most gracious, most merciful.
To Sister Aishah,
Sorry but i have to disagree with your comments on many things, firstly by having extensive knowledge of the contradictions in the Bible is a valuable asset of defence against Christian missionaries who not only undermine our religion and prophet but also lust to apostate many Muslims today. The confrontation between Islam and Christianity is unavoidable, and by knowing the weakness of our enemy plus deep knowledge of our own religion we would not only be able to give dakwah but fend ourself from attacks by missionaries.For to show one about the truth is also to uncover falseness.
While you do not like people to call USA the great Satan, but certain facts remains such as the justification of Iraq’s invasion ? where is the weapon of mass desrtuction ? or Saddam’s involvement in Al-qaeda ? Futhermore American foreign policy on middle east, supporting Israel and supplying them with weapons of mass destruction to be used against muslims and futher exterminating muslims for greater Israel. Yes or no USA is a great Satan remains to be seen but clearly they have invaded muslims lands and allied with the zionis enemy. An ally of Islam’s enemy is an enemy.
Al zarqawi,
interesting name..isnt that the name of the terrorist?hmm.
anyway, what do you mean by “a great satan”? As far as i know, satan is the greatest of all liars. You mean to say tat there is a bigger honcho than satan? just like menj, you got ur facts wrong.
Lemme ask you something..do you believe that satan exists? if you do, then you should know tat one of his favourite arsenals against us is sowing hatred in our hearts for our brothers and sisters (be it muslim/non muslim). so lets not travel all the way to america to find satan, he might be even knocking at the door of your soul right now.
I strongly suggest tat you do a bit of soul searching
Dear Al-zarqawi,
Refer to this line of yours ” Yes or no USA is a great Satan remains to be seen but clearly they have invaded muslims lands and allied with the zionis enemy. An ally of Islam’s enemy is an enemy.”
Do u know that Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, the custodian of the 2 holy mosque is the strongest supporter of America and principal sponsor of its economy? So that means Saudi is ur enemy too? or the Greatest Satan ever? Clearly the Saudi’s had no objection to Iraq and also the mistreatment of the Palestinians! PLEASE open ur eyes and mind to better see what is actually going on in this world of ours. Everything has to be taken with a pinch of salt.
And to Aishah, the views of this website and commentors do not reflect all muslims in Malaysia. There are many of us who are open and not prejudiced towards other cultures and beliefs.
Wassalam
to jjj,
Did i say America was a great Satan ? I have clearly stated that fact remain to be discovered. You said that satan is the prince of liar a deceiver. The role of satan seems to fit you well for cleverly twisting my statement. I am not lying that US have invaded Iraq and are staunch allies of Israel.
You blame me for sowing discord, triple J show me that you are not a hypocrate and go and preach
wat you say hear to websites like faith freedom, answering islam.com and many others ‘friendly’ christian based websites which show how much love and grace they have towards Islam and muslims that they even call our prophet a pidophile. Plz kindly do that. Good qualities will be known even among enemies.
Dear musliman,
Before you start having presumption that Im a terrorist, I would like to clear a few things. Wat I meant as the enemy of Islam is pertaining to Zionist Goverment of Israel not the US.As Israel has no diplomatic ties with most muslim nation , they have been consider a clear enemy unless you think the opposite. Although the US never did directly involve in the palestinian conflict but they supply the weapons to Israel army which are used to kill innocent muslims. While the Saudi have close ties with US they do not associate themselves with Israel therefore they are hardly considered enemies.
Its dissapointing to see so call open minded and non prejudice muslims quick to bash fellow muslims who they consider fanatics but put a death ear and act dumb when harbi Kufars slander our religion and degrade our prophet.
hey jjj, see u here also..
These websites are really cool. But a bit too much hatred is being sown I agree. Also, I do agree that the bible has been altered to suit the needs of rulers from time to time. And that the writing was definitely not done by Jesus himself but by his apostles which could possibly mean some misintrepetations to say the least.
Especially the romans I think, they were a smart and ruthless bunch! kinda conquered the world at a point..
Al Zarqawi- U got a point there, the arabs are also quite surprisingly the biggest investors in America which in turn is screwing up the middle east.. something fishy that I will continue to study..
Anyway, JJJ or anyone else, If u like maybe we can discuss among ourselves thru email. If u keen then email me at jesus.rawx@gmail.com
oops sorry i mean musliman not Al-Zarqawi, I actually totally disagree with zarqawi!
“This is attested to by the fact that the Trinitarian church felt it necessary to totally obliterate all Gospel manuscripts written before 325 AD when they officially introduced the “Trinity†to the world.”
If you will research this subject, you will find that both liberal and conservative scholars, with many archeological findings & historical writings, now agree that all books in the New Testament were written before 100 AD. Do your research and you will find many, if not all, Muslim scholars agreeing. They really have no choice but to agree since the evidence supports same.
It’s so much easier, isn’t it, to blame others for your problems instead of looking at the truth, finding your problems to be your own fault, and then finding solutions which actually work? The Muslim world will never be capable of ever correcting their problems until they face the truth. You cannot fix a car, can you, if you do not admit what the real problem with the car is, can you?
The US has given much money to the Palestinians, too; however, Arafat stole their money. Arafat was, of course, the leader the Palestinians chose to keep even after finally realizing he was stealing their money, and they chose to keep him only b/c they knew the US & Israel wanted them to get rid of him. This is what hatred ALWAYS does to people. It is a road which leads to nothing but self-destruction in the end. Then, of course, the US continued giving the Palestinians money after Arafat was gone, until they elected terrorists to run their country. We will not make the mistake of giving to a corrupt Palestinian government again.
Muslims love to convince themselves that Israel would not be a successful country capable of kicking their butts if it were not for the USA, but we all know that is only one of thousands of lies the Muslim world continue to convince themselves of. The truth is that about 1/2 million Israelis were kicking the butts of about 40 million Arab Muslims long before the US gave Israel a dime, once in only 6 days, which is what the Bible tells us will happen in this day and time. Israel has chosen to make certain almost all of their citizens get the very best educations, while the Palestinians have chosen to focus on educating their citizens with nothing but hatred, how to manipulate the media, & wanting to kill as many innocent people as possible. This, again, has been their own choice and, once again, we see them shooting themselves in the foot, as always.
The Israelis have some of the greatest scientists and educated people in the world. The awards they win and the discoveries they make, which tremendously help the world, are unreal. The Palestinians do nothing whatsoever for the world. I once read an article of what all Israeli scientists had discovered in 3 short months and it was unreal. One was a cure for a long-time disease, others were many medications that helped people having cancer, AIDS, etc. I had the article on my other computer, but it crashed. Anyway, Israel gives at least as much back to the US as we give to them. Almost every dime we give to them, they have to spend in the USA, which creates about 50,000 jobs in the US every year. But their research, inventions, and discoveries would be worth every dime we give to them even if they didn’t have to spend it in the US.
The US has tried to be friends with both the Palestinians and the Israelis, but the Arab Muslim world are like children, saying – we aren’t going to be your friend if you are friends with Israel. It reminds me of the fights my 12-year-old daughter and her friends get into sometimes.
When the Muslim world stops trying to blame all of the problems they create for themselves on the rest of the world, then, and only then, will the Muslim world begin to move forward. Only the losers in the world sit around blaming all of their problems on everyone else. Again, you cannot fix something when you refuse to face the truth about what is wrong with it.
“This is why we find such serious contradictions in even the most basic of it’s teachings.”
Again, your years on the NT books are wrong. Do your research. Once upon a time, there was an American Jewish law professor who challenged his Christian law students that he would prove the NT would not stand up in a court of law and had many contradictions in it & that he would disprove Christianity. He did his research only to find that there is much proof…even secular historical records which prove him wrong on these issues. In fact, there is more proof of the life of Jesus as Christians know and love than any other historical figure in or around the time He walked this earth. Dr. Greenleaf, whom many believe to have been the greatest legal mind to have walked this earth, also found that the NT would not only stand up in a court of law, but would prove beyond a shadow of a doubt the Jesus that Christians know and love. This famous professor was Dr. Simon Greenleaf, who helped found Harvard Law School, and as I said, whom many say was the greatest legal mind to have ever walked this earth. Dr. Greenleaf ended up becoming a Christian for the rest of his life after his research to disprove Christianity, as have many, many others done the very same thing.
The problem with Muslims like yourself is you simply do not even begin to understand the Bible. The Bible is revealed to us as God’s plans are unfolding. There are still parts of the Bible which God has “sealed up” and He will only reveal them to us when He is ready to reveal them, just as He has done all along with the Bible. The Bible is full of teachings in parables, full of the writings of history, full of prophecies, and it all miraculously fits perfectly if, indeed, you truly understand it. It has been the best selling book since its very beginning and even most atheists will admit that it is the very best history book we have. Many have laughed over the years about the stories in the Bible, only to find archeological findings to prove the Bible correct and make fools out of those who laughed at it. Muslims have a huge problem with Muhammad referring to the Bible as he most definitely did, which we are 100% certain is the very same Bible we possess today. Why would Muhammad tell Muslims to refer to the Bible and ask the People of the Book questions if he thought it was a corrupt Bible? This alone, should prove to Muslims that Islam is wrong.
Many Muslims are turning to Christianity today for many reasons, but mainly, because tens of thousands of them have had dreams/visions of Jesus. In fact, there have been so many to claim to have had these dreams/visions of Jesus calling them that they are doing studies about it in California. Christian Missionaries have been going to Muslim countries for years and years now with little to no success in converting Muslims since most Muslims are taught many lies about Christianity from day-one. It is these dreams/visions of God calling them in these last days that a miraculous change has began to occur. Ex-Muslims are the very best preachers I have ever known, so it makes sense that God would be calling on them in these last days & the only way He can unbrainwash them is to actually personally call on them Himself. God is opening up the closed up Muslim countries so His true word can be taught to all the people on this earth before Jesus returns. Muslims are so insecure about their religion that they have to teach lies about other religions and they have had to practically inprison their followers in the Muslims world and kill anyone who tells Muslims about their religion and threaten to kill apostates. And you think this is a religion from God??? This is very sad, I think, that Muslims have to teach such lies about Christianity. Why are Muslims so insecure about their religion if they truly believe in it? Why do they inprison and kill many Christians for just telling Muslims about Christianity? Islam was spread by the sword and there simply is no other way to see it. If Christians and others who found themselves at the tip of the sword of Islam, having a choice of being a sex slave and/or paying a tax they could not afford, of course they are going to convert to Islam. If Islam conquers countries and makes it the head of the country and all Muslims superior to all others, of course those who are not Muslims are going to be treated very badly, whether it be from the Muslims themselves or the government or both. This is only simple commonsense and our history tells us time and time again that anytime people make themselves superior to others, there is going to be much mistreatment of people.
I don’t understand why some people are so anti pauline. It’s ashame that people believe everything they read or hear. The trinity has been apart of chrisitianity since the beginning and the nicene council had nothing to do with it.
I am an American and must admit there are many problems with this country. No doubt greed and immortality is taking its toll on what this country is supposed to be or was meant to be. Most Americans are against the war in Iraq and at least half were always against it. The war is primarily George Bush’s idea and his popularity here is very low because of it. You cannot consider ALL Americans to be your enemy or ALL are evil. There are many devout Moslems in the US and many non Moslems who believe most Muslims are OK and that you deserve to worship God in the ways you see fit. Nor do I believe all Jews are your enemies. I have heard many Jews say positive things about Muslims and Palestinians and would like to live in peace like brothers.
However, for the Muslims who feel ALL Americans and ALL of Israel is your enemy. How many trade centers and shopping malls do you think you can destroy before you lose even your allies in these counties and even they feel you need to be dealt with accordingly? As it is, American Muslims have been targeted by much more violence since the 911 attack on the Trade Center. Surely you don’t believe America or Israel will just sit still and let you slaughter them? I can assure you they will fight back and as usual not just the guilty but the innocent (such as children) will also die and suffer on both sides. It would be much wiser and of much more benefit to Muslims and non Muslims to find ways to settle differences with out violence. If you really feel that killing is the only answer then at least pick the guilty to be your targets. When you destroy a large building such as the Trade Center as I said not just the evil but the good also die. Do you believe Allah will thank and reward you for that?
As far as there being errors in the Christen Bible there is no doubt about that. Most educated people in the US are aware of the discrepancies and not all Americans believe that missionaries have a right to force there narrow opinions down anyone’s throat.
“However, we can find in the Bible a sworn affidavit by Paul that he is guilty of fabrication. Sound incredible? Let us have a look.”
I don’t seem to see any evidence from the account that Paul fabricated his conversion account.
Alhamdullilah,
Praise be to Allah the Almighty.
May He continue to preserve His ummah, people to abide to the Truth and not misinterpret the Holy Koran and use it to blame and condemn others.
All humankind were created by Allah. Blessed be the Al-Rahman and Al-Rahim.
My heart wept for the people of Palestine and anger the way my country (esp President) who by their selfish ambition caused people to suffer. I cried every night when i read newspaper about case in Palestine, Iraq. Not only to muslim countries but also to other non muslim countries which has been afflicted with pain and killings.
Yet in your country, Malaysia, don’t you see our bros and sisters too committed crime (which only He knows). Be honest about it. Corruption, poor people being taken advantage of. Doesn’t that reflect the work of evil (Satan).
Yet we all are human. Country is country. Country can be good or bad or even evil because it is human of administer them.
May we come to learn and understand the Holy Koran in its proper tafseer e.g. context.
May Allah helps us not to condemn people.
Insha Allah
kudos for the further exposure on the Christian dogmatic, paradoxical truth.
I wouldnt care much if Hebrew weren’t written by Paul or whoever responsible for the corruption of Prophet Isa Alaihissalam’s teachings, the truth is…we all know and most highly…ALLAH KNOWS!
“Muslims do not claim that Jesus’ true disciples tampered with the Bible, but that others claiming to act in their names did so later on. This is attested to by the fact that the Trinitarian church felt it necessary to totally obliterate all Gospel manuscripts written before 325 AD when they officially introduced the “Trinity†to the world.”
I am a bit confused by your above statement as to its veracity as I do not find it anywhere in the church history books. Can you tell me …
1. Who are the others who have tampered with all the Gospels?
2. What evidence is there for the total obliteration of all the Gospel manuscripts before AD 325?
Irenaeus was an important figure defending the four main Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke, John in the New Testament in 170, stating in his Against Heresies:
“ But it is not possible that the Gospels can be either more or fewer in number than they are. For since there are four zones of the world in which we live, and four principal winds, while the church has been scattered throughout the world, and since the “pillar and ground” of the church is the Gospel and the spirit of life, it is fitting that she should have four pillars, breathing incorruption on every side, and vivifying human afresh. From this fact, it is evident that the Logos, the fashioner demiourgos of all, he that sits on the cherubim and holds all things together, when he was manifested to humanity, gave us the gospel under four forms but bound together by one spirit.
Irenaeus (Greek: ΕἰÏηναῖος), (b. 2nd century; d. end of 2nd/beginning of 3rd century) was bishop of Lugdunum in Gaul, which is now Lyon, France.
In AD 367, the bishop of Alexandria did urge Christians to “cleanse the church from every defilement†and to reject “the hidden books.â€It is possible that, in response to letters such as this one, some Christians destroyed non-canonical gospels.
2. What evidence is there for the total obliteration of all the Gospel manuscripts before AD 325?
Do ever heard of Gospel of Mary, Gospel of Judas, Gospel of Philips, Gospel of Thomas, Gospel of Truth, Gospel of Barnabas before?
In the advances of knowledge and archeology, we have rediscovered the “obliterated” gospels as mentioned above.
I ask you to watch a documentary on ” Gospel of Judas” and so many other documentaries on Jesus, Da Vinci Code and Mary Magdalene, made by Discovery Channel and National Geographics.
Unless if you dont subscribe to Astro, so maybe you dont have the opportunity to watch this wonderful documentaries which revealed how the Church tampered God’s word to suits their political survival.
Peace Brother,
With all due respect, try to get your facts straight before posting.
Matthias was appointed as the 12th disciple after Judas’ suicide. (see Acts)
The word “apostle” comes from the Greek work “APOSTOLOS,” which is related to the Greek verb “to send.” There were many more than 12 apostles who were “sent” by Yeshua to spread the good news.
Yes, james
He was send to doom us all…
I noticed your name under the article you wrote about Paul being the satanic apostle and you are using the same name (paulus is Latin form of paul). Are you saying subtly that you also are a satanist type of person? If you denounce someone you want surely not to be associated with him in any way and yet you are doing the opposite. Hmmm, are you thinking straight brother?
“the High Priest asking for letters sanctioning such actions in Damascus. Why he would do this since the High Priest of Jerusalem had no authority over Damascus remains a mystery to many, however, let us continue.”
The author assumes that Paul was sought “political” power from the High Priest to cease Christians in Damascus. He merely wanted the approval or sanction from him to present to the Jews in that city to help him find Jews who were professing Christians. Simple and therefore not a lie or fabrication.
Second, Paul did not “appoint himself as the twelfth apostle.” Many Christians have erroneously assigned that title to him but Paul never included himself in it saying rather that he counseled with “the twelve” on a trip to Jerusalem. He names several other people as Apostles as well including James the brother of Jesus, Barnabas, Appollos, Timothy, Silas, etc. The Apostles of the Lamb are named and Paul is not named among them. The author is misinformed.
Hi, My name is John from USA and I often wonder about Paul and his testimony. My ancestors were Christian and I was born into a Christian family. I read on the guard tower that there similarities between Christian doctrines and Paganism(Mystery Religions). I wonder if the purpose of Paul was to confuse the faithful and snare the righteous? Judgement day is going to be so sad for so many people because so few are saved.
ALLAH IS ONE TRUE GOD OF THE UNIVERSE AND I TESTIFY WITH MY LIFE,SOUL, AND ENTITY AS A HUMAN BEING THAT MUHAMMAD IS THE LAST PROPHET AND MESSENGER THOOUGH THE LINE OF ABRAHAM (IBRAHIM AND ISHMAEL IN ISLAM)FROM THE ARAB NATION. PEACE BE UPON ALL THE PROPHETS WHOM ISLAM RESPECTS: MOSES (MUSA), JESUS CHRIST (ISA, THE MESSIAH, BUT NOT THE SON OF GOD OR GOD) WHO WILL DEFEAT THE ANTICHRIST (IS REFERRED TO AS DIJALL IN ISLAM, WHO WILL CLAIM TO BE GOD), ISACC AND SARAH (WHO WE RESPECT DEARLY), ISHMAEL AND HIS MOTHER HAGAR (WHO JEWS TALK STRAIGHT SHIT ABOUT BECAUSE PROPHET MUHAMMAD IS HIS DESCENDANT), ANGEL GABRIEL (REFERRED TO AS JIBREEL, WHO JEWS DEGRADE AND TALK STRAIGHT SHIT ABOUT), AND BLESS ALL THOSE I HAVE NOT MENTIONED. MARY AND JESUS WERE MUSLIMS BECAUSE THEY FASTED, PRAYED AND UPHELD GODS COMMANDS AND VALUES. AND WHO ARE THE ONES WHO DO THESE THINGS, ONLY JEWS AND MUSLIMS, BUT MOSTLY MUSLIMS. THE TERM MUSLIM MEANS: “ONE WHO SUBMITS TO THE WILL OF GOD”, THOUGH THE PROPHETS BEFORE THEM WERE EITHER CONSIDERED JEWS OR CHRISTIANS AT THAT TIME; THEY ARE STILL CONSIDERED MUSLIMS. THE REASON IS BECAUSE THEY SUBMITTED TO THE WILL OF GOD, PREACHED HIS MESSAGE, AND PRACTICED WHAT HE SENT DOWN. CHRISTIANITY FOCUSES AROUND THE WORSHIP OF A TRINITY WHICH IS: THE FATHER, THE SON, AND THE HOLY SPIRIT, CLAIMING NONE EXISTS WITHOUT THE ASSISTANCE OF ANOTHER, WHICH I TOTALLY REJECT. THE REASON IS BECAUSE JUDAISM, CHRISTIANITY, AND ISLAM ARE REFFERED TO AS ABRAHAMIC RELIGIONS; AND ABRAHAM WAS ONE OF THOSE WHO CAME TO THE REALIZATION OF THE ONE TRUE GOD OF EXISTANCE. HE BELIEVED THAT THIS ONE TRUE GOD WAS ONE AND NOT ASSOCITED WITH HIS CREATION, AND/OR ANYTHING AT ALL. DURING HIS TIME THERE WERE THOSE WHO WORSHIPPED IDOLS SUCH AS: THE SUN, THE MOON, ANIMALS, EVEN SCULPTURES OF HUMAN BEINGS INCLUDING PROPHETS, AND MULTIPLE GODS. I DON’T FEEL CHRISTIANITY SHOULD BE CONSIDERED AN ABRAHAMIC RELIGION, SINCE CHRISTIANS REFER TO PROPHET JESUS AS A GOD OR GOD’S SON. MANY CHRISTIANS GIVE THE EXCUSE OF GOD IMPREGNATING MARY (HENCE THE NAME MOTHER OF GOD) THEREFORE GOD IS THE FATHER, REMEMBER IF JESUS IS GOD’S SON THEN ADAM SHOULD BE GIVEN THE SAME TITLE IN THAT CONTEXT BECAUSE GOD CREATED ADAM WITHOUT NO FATHER OR MOTHER. AND HOW IN THE WORLD CAN MARY, WITH ALL DO RESPECT, (MAY PEACE AND BLESSINGS BE WITH HER, FOR SHE WAS FALSLEY ACCUSED BY THE JEWS AS AN UNCHASTE WOMAN) BE THE MOTHER OF GOD, IF GOD IS THE SOLE DEITY (THEREFORE HAS NO ASSOCIATES, HE BEGETS NOT, NOR IS HE BEGOTTEN). NO SLUMBER CAN SIEZE HIM FOR HE IS EVER AWAKE (REFERING TO THE CHRISTIAN DOCTRINE THAT: GOD CREATED THE WORLD IN 6 DAYS AND RESTED ON THE 7th DAY). HE IS THE ETERNAL LORD (HE CAN NEVER DIE, SINCE CHRISTIANS HOLD THAT PROPHET JESUS IS GOD/SON OF GOD AND DIED ON THE CROSS FOR OUR SINS, THEN ROSE FROM THE DEAD 3 DAYS LATER). JESUS CHRIST NEVER CLAIMED TO BE GOD, MIRACLE HE PERFORMED WAS BY THE WILL OF GOD (ALLAH). JESUS SPOKE ARAMAIC WHICH IS A SEMETIC LANGUAGE CLOSELY RELATED TO ARABIC WHICH IS THE LANGUAGE IN WHICH THE QUARON WAS SENT TO PROPHET MUHAMMAD THROUGH ANGEL GABRIEL. AND AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE “PASSION OF THE CHRIST”, JESUS SAID THE WORD ALAH, THE WORD IN ARAMAIC FOR GOD. The Christians however are extremely weak in knowledge and are detached from scripture due to their lack of knowledge in Hebrew, Aramaic and ancient Greek. This is the reason why when people like Bart Ehrman reveal certain grammatical errors and textual additions that he discovered solely through his knowledge of ancient Greek, people are astounded. This is why they make such statements as Alah means serpent or devil, cursing their own God. Jews have a lot of knowledge. They have many scholarly works that are well studied amongst the Jews and the Jews are fluent in the languages of their religious texts, Hebrew and Aramaic. Jews of Arabia and other Arab countries have been using the word Allah, along with the Hebrew words Eloh and Eloheem, the Aramaic words Alah or Elaha when reffering to the Creator. None of the Rabbis have seen a problem with this and the Jews of Yemen and Morocco still use the word Allah until this day. I CAN TALK ALL DAMN DAY ABOUT WHY ISLAM IS THE STRAIGHT PATH TO THE ONE TRUE GOD OF EXISTANCE BUT I DON’T HAVE TIME TO CONTINUALLY CONVINCE OR OPEN THE MINDS OF THE IGNORANT ONES. I HAVE DONE RESEARCH TO A LARGE EXTENT AND HAD COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT ALLAH IS THE EVER ETERNAL, MERCIFUL GOD, THAT CHRISTIANS AND JEWS TALK SHIT ABOUT, ALLAH IS THEIR GOD TOO BUT THEY DON’T REALIZE AND/OR ACCEPT IT; THEY JUST DON’T WANT TO ACCEPT THE PROPHETHOOD OF MUHAMMAD BECAUSE HE CAME FROM THAT OF THE ARAB NATION AND IS NOT JEWISH. OVERALL, I DEEPLY BELIEVE THIS IS THE TRUE PATH DUE TO THE SIGNS I OBSERVE EVERYDAY OR EXPERIENCE.
TO PROVE MY POINT: REFER TO YOUTUBE AND TYPE IN: IS JESUS GOD?, IS THE BIBLE GOD’S WORD?, SIGNS OF ALLAH, MIRACLES OF ALLAH and SNAKE BABY.
REFER TO WIKIPEDIA: TYPE IN ISLAM AND RESEARCH FROM THAT POINT ON AND COMPARE IT TO JUDAISM, and CHRISTIANITY. LOOK UP ALSO WHAT CHRISTIAN SCHOLARS HAVE TO SAY ABOUT ISLAM, RESEARCH THE RELIGION OF CHRISTIANITY AND FIND OUT (IN THE BIBLE) IF IT STATES THAT JESUS SAID HE WAS GOD OR SON OF GOD. FIND OUT ALSO IF IT STATES (THE BIBLE) THAT JESUS SAID THE ALMIGHTY GOD WAS A RESULT OF 3 PERONONS IN ONE: THE FATHER, THE SON, AND THE HOLY SPIRIT. FINALLY, GET A QUARON AND A BIBLE, GET ALL THE DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF THE BIBLE (WHY ARE THERE SO MANY VERSIONS AND TRANSLATIONS OF THE BIBLE) AND COMPARE THE 2. THEN YOU BE THE JUDGE AND CHOOSE THE RIGHT PATH.
hmm… i’m just a kiddo from Malaysia. And i’m a Christian. Well i dont really have anything knowledgeable in my head or any of this evidence of this and that that all of u say abt paul.
But a thing i noticed after reading all of this so far is that :
If our religion is real , there’s no point fighting for it anyway as it will always remain the truth no matter what. And if the bible is true , then it’s prophesies will somehow be fulfilled no matter what .If it was of human origins, then nothing would come out of it and it would be a pack of lies . And Christianity would be just another fairy tale story which fooled all of us Christians. The same goes for the Muslims and the religion Islam.
My view is that a religion that is true will always shine no matter what u say about it, no matter what u argue against it.And no further proving is needed.
And for the believers of faith, if we think/ know that our religion is true, then everything else falls in place. Nothing is going to threaten us or our religion because … yup it is true.
Anyway , i’m just saying all this because i’m a purely new Christian, though born in a Christian family, i admit i do have doubts sometimes believing in the Resurrection of Jesus. But He certainly did things way miraculous for me before, and i would be a liar if i were to deny that. He is real.
Whatever is right in my statement is from Allah(SWT) and His Messenger(SAW), and what ever is wrong in this is form myself and the Shaytan(audu bilaahee minaishaytaneerajeem),
To the one that calls his/herself by the screen name “the one true god of the universe” Astagfarallah, Only Allah(SWT) has that title as a reminder for me and you don’t use that as a screen name. To address your issue of whether Christians should be called of the Abrahamic faiths. As a reminder to me and you YES. Allah(SWT) and his prophet(SAW)said as much in our Book and Ahadith. Let me make something clear there are Unitarian as well as Trinitarian Christians. We don’t have the right to decide.
From what we are taught as Muslims we know who are refered to in the last verse of Al-Fatihah and why. Ghireel Mahdubi aleheem Wale daal leen. The Jews because they have the knowledge, but no faith and the Christians with faith and little knowledge. And we know the meaning of this Ayat from Authentic Hadith from the Nabi(SAW).
The book of Acts has been accepted as a 2nd century fiction for quite some time now. Paul was never a persecutor turned disciple (the whole idea is silly). In the few epistles that are still attributed to him he never mentions being Saul, persecuting Christians, or receiving any sort of divine revaluation.
we Muslims should b ashamed. being Muslim we r not doing our job. we r doing what? nothing. the prophet(p&bbuh) said that we should live like a body.when 1 part of the body hurts than other gets weak or sad. we should look at the Muslim worlds. we were doing what? nothing. Israel attacked the innocent people of philistine.Arab didn’t do anything. i think Arab had sold his shame to the USA.it was Lebanon who heard the crying of philistine & at least they tried.but we Muslims are still doing nothing.they r attacking Iran,Pakistan,Afghanistan,why????to finish violence!!!??? i agree with sis aish that all the people of US didn’t want the war of Iraq.we also saw on the TV that many people protested it.but shameless bush had no difference. all the people know why bush attacked Iraq. for oil.
i also agree with him/her that many Muslims r being converted into Christians but what about many Christians are being converted into Muslims.
Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world. one said thet previously Muslims were good preachers. now i know they r lag behind. do u kno why? bcuz we dot kno what Allah told us in the quran or the messenger(sa) in the hadiths.
we should b ashamed of ourselves. you kno if somebody tell bad things about quran or Allah or the prophet(sa) we will break each of his bones,Joe or take his life or give our lives.but still we wont read.
previously we all the Muslims were very alert about religion but now we cant c very much.they r busy 4 this life nt 4 hereafter.but u look previous ummahs u will find that they were ready 4 future n prophecies to fulfill. they were ready 4 their death, they were ready 4 the Antichrist(dajjal),imam Mahdi & Jesus(pbuh) to came. they were ready for the last fights. but now many people don’t even kno about it.itz a shame on us.
we look at Arab,Pakistan,Iraq,Iran etc most of the countries r not following Islam. even in Bangladesh(where i live in) is not following islam where 80% of the people r muslim or indonasia where the most people r muslims.we say in hazz”lambbaik allahhumma lambaik. lambaik la shari kala lambaik. innal hamda wannia mata laqa wal mulq la shari kalaq”(look oh Allah we arrived look Allah we have arrived and we don’t do sirk,verily all praise goes to you & the niamahs(comes) from u and all r under ur control/rules and u gat no sirk).
we say it but domt do it.even our lady head ministrator is a hazzi but bangladesh itz own rules.people r nt doing what islam says.
giving dawah is very good but it should b in the right way. the 1st i,we,u(all) should follow is the prophet Muhammad(p&bbuh)& other prophets,than 4 now(our age) we also have some dawi like Ahmed deedat or z.naik they r gradate scholars.
i think we must do both: make us good Muslims and preach Islam(giving dawa).
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may Allah help us to b good Muslims. amen.